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Post by UK on Aug 2, 2010 12:46:29 GMT -5
No UN meeting is one without climate change being discussed So, your opinions? Are we too late to change the world back? Is there any way to change our technology so drastically that almost all of the technology becomes green(ish)? Can we cut back on the emissions we produce? Can we persuade America/China to? Do first world countries really have a right to try and get developing countries like India and China to cut back? And what will we do when the oil runs out?
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SCIENCE. Science, my friends, Science.
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Post by USAlex on Aug 2, 2010 14:44:40 GMT -5
Good point UK! Climate change. ........ Are we too late?: No point in speculating about that, if we are then we are. We might as well try to do as much as we all can. Is there a way to change our tech. to make almost all engergy via "green" sources? I HOPE SO. *trusts in science*. There have been some advances in fusion technology here (although some think fusion is an impossible dream in terms of never being a practical energy source, I still think it's worth researching...), I was also travelling between Kentucky and Wisconsin the other day, and they sure are building a ton of wind turbines in Indiana... So I think it is on its way. This is a website I have found to be informative: www.greenprogress.com/About fusion: www.ans.org/pi/ps/docs/ps12-bi.pdfCan we cut back on the emissions we produce? We have to, really. It's sort of not a "can" question anymore...and the good news is there are a variety of ways to do this. Bad news is that progress has not been coordinated very well. About China: they really have been improving, like we all have. According to the WWF, China ranks fourth globally in clean energy technology sales in 2008 while the United States ranked second. (Germany was first). But, similar to the rest of us, there is a lot of progress to go yet. Do first world countries have a right to try to get developing countries like India and China to cut back? Ummm...duh. Not only do we have a right but we will. I see the counterargument, sure...that the rest of us got the chance to go through the industrial era withough such limitations, etc. But, when left to the choice of absolute "fairness" and the planet...I'm sure everyone will understand..right? What will we do when the oil runs out?....... Huh. Well, I suppose that either we'll have a green-energy sector large enough to support everything...or......failure. What did NASA say again that one time? Failure=not an option. Same with this situation. Although....maybe.......there might be fuel in space? But green energy is the more practical course.
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Post by Indonesia on Aug 3, 2010 2:29:11 GMT -5
THANK YOU FOR DISCUSSING THIS!!! FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP~ First of all, we are never too late to take action, all we have to do is just do it with all your effort. www.physorg.com/news187622107.htmlApparently, scientists have developed a new form of fuel by using combustible ice (methane hydrate) the ratio of its energy density of this and regular natural gas would be 1:164 (in cubic meters). Although there's a risk to the environment (because methane is a major greenhouse gas), using methane hydrate as a fuel would be far better than letting it melt on its own. What will we do when the oil runs out? I suppose going green~ using solar powered systems, wind turbines, hydro electric power and all that. There's one more thing I'd like to add. Have you ever heard of the HAARP theory, chemtrails and the connection between it and weather weapons? www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqg35yt-jx8Personally, I'm slightly concerned with this; I brought this up myself in my school and now it's been 4 months and we're still having an ongoing discussion about this. I need your opinions, thanks
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Post by UK on Aug 16, 2010 5:15:34 GMT -5
A few examples from the Weeklz Guardian, since I can get no other British newspapers in Germany.
'Ecuador in $3.6bn deal not to exploit oil rich Amazon Reserve' Basically, Ecuador has asked for $3.6bn from the UN not to exploit an oil block in the Yasuni National Park. 'Saudis seek fossil fuel compensation' Saudi seeks compensation for the oil if and when production slows down after a new climate change agreement is decided upon. Saudi earned nearly $300bn from oil exportation.
Do either of them (and other Opec countries) have anz right to hold the world at ransom like this? I'll answer myself as soon as I can find a normal laptop.
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Post by Indonesia on Aug 16, 2010 9:21:01 GMT -5
Now that is very hard to answer. ._. I really have no answer to this and if they want an answer I'd say I'd just go along with it for a whole lot of points that I can't list out myself.
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Post by UK on Aug 19, 2010 10:20:20 GMT -5
Ecuador oil-drilling deal I've found a link, so click it, click it, click it! I think Ecuador has no right, though I do see where they're coming from. Holding the world at ransom won't help, and as soon as the money runs out I doubt the UN will pay them more. It's putting a lot of countries and benefactors on the backfoot, especially with problems at the moment such as Pakistan's flood, where they could really use the money. Saudi Arabia's profits doesn't come just from exporting oil. They've been investing in renewable energy and are one of the leading countries in technology and enterprise, specifically because they knew they couldn't rely on oil. Changing tack suddenly is stupid and a pathetic excuse.
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