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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:23:16 GMT -5
Wrong, actually. We won out independence from Rome. Never really won it though, since the Roman Empire simply vanished and the soldiers keeping the country returned back to their homeland. We did fight them off though. Then, if you believe the king Arthur legends....
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:26:27 GMT -5
The only people that did try and fight them off were possibly the Pictai in Scotland and the Scotai in Ireland. The relatively 'English' people and the celts were defeated and those that didn't like the Romans fled. Plus, that would be more English independence than British independence, I suppose.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:28:00 GMT -5
The english people were the invader's, technically. The Anglos, Saxons, Normans.
The Welsh, who were the Celts. The Scottish, who were the Picts.
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:31:44 GMT -5
The 'English' I'm referring to were the Celts really, who were pushed back into Wales by the Anglos.
So, yeah, no real independence day?
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:33:43 GMT -5
We have a submission day, though. The welsh are being far too timid. Why does nobody know of Wales, really?
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:38:09 GMT -5
Submission day?
Because everyone's confused them for the English, since they're a Principality and all. And it's considered more of a constituent (is that the right word?) of the UK than a country of their own.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:39:41 GMT -5
Entrance date into the Union.
They are their own country, though. :<
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:46:19 GMT -5
Oh, that piffle. Who actually remembers it, apart from the Scottish nationalists who spend the day plotting ways to get out of the UK?
But they're represented by the UK on the international stage, so. And, to be honest, they don't have many defining features apart from....ahemsheepahem. Unlike the Scottish, for example, with their kilts and bagpipes (that aren't really theirs) and the English with their neverending tea. The Welsh don't have many defining features, like I said.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:47:33 GMT -5
King Arthur. KING ARTHUR.
Who was actually half saxon. OTL
Cuddy the Wren, Greenwitch...
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:49:20 GMT -5
Whom most people believe is actually English.
And I haven't really heard of either of those two. So.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:50:45 GMT -5
Old things. Ritual. DRUIDS.
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:52:23 GMT -5
Druids who converge at Stonehenge in the Solstice. In England.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:54:16 GMT -5
True. But Welsh/celtic tradition. The english are technically the anglos.
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Post by UK on Jul 28, 2010 16:55:18 GMT -5
Yes, they are.
And back on track. The British don't technically have an independence day, because there was nobody to get independence from as the UK.
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Post by mamauk on Jul 28, 2010 16:57:12 GMT -5
...India. But they are part of the commonwealth.
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